[BiO BB] Re: BiO_Bulletin_Board Digest, Vol 10, Issue 20

Chris Upton cupton at uvic.ca
Wed Aug 31 12:16:39 EDT 2005


Hi,

We could probably modify our Base-By-Base program to do that if you  
want.
See   www.virology.ca     under workbench.

Do you just need an editor or something to do the alignment?

Chris

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:04:51 +0200
> From: Corn? HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl>
> Subject: [BiO BB] aligning character data other than DNA or protein
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> Hi all,
>
> Does anybody know of a convenient tool to align stretches of character
> data other than DNA or protein (i.e. numbers: 01-02-03-05 and
> 01-02-04-05) that is also able to deal with insertions and  
> deletions etc.?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Corné
>
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -------------------
> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>
> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:24:25 +0100
> From: Iain Wallace <iain.m.wallace at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BiO BB] aligning character data other than DNA or
>     protein
> To: "The general forum at Bioinformatics.Org"
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> Hi,
>
> I think ClustalW can do that, as long as it is in a sequence format.
>
> Iain
>
> On 8/31/05, Corné HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anybody know of a convenient tool to align stretches of  
>> character
>> data other than DNA or protein (i.e. numbers: 01-02-03-05 and
>> 01-02-04-05) that is also able to deal with insertions and  
>> deletions etc.?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Corné
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> --------------------
>> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
>> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
>> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>>
>> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
>> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
>> fax: #31-24-3658671
>> E-Mail: c.klaassen at cwz.nl
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:35:34 +0200
> From: Corn? HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl>
> Subject: Re: [BiO BB] aligning character data other than DNA or
>     protein
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> Iain
>
> Clustal only accepts 24 letters. Numbers and other characters are
> disregarded. So what if I have more than 24 different characters?
>
> Corné
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -------------------
> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>
> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
> fax: #31-24-3658671
> E-Mail: c.klaassen at cwz.nl
>
>
>
> Iain Wallace wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think ClustalW can do that, as long as it is in a sequence format.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> On 8/31/05, Corné HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a convenient tool to align stretches of  
>>> character
>>> data other than DNA or protein (i.e. numbers: 01-02-03-05 and
>>> 01-02-04-05) that is also able to deal with insertions and  
>>> deletions etc.?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Corné
>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> ---------------------
>>> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
>>> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
>>> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>>>
>>> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
>>> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
>>> fax: #31-24-3658671
>>> E-Mail: c.klaassen at cwz.nl
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:45:20 +1000
> From: Gad Abraham <gabraham at cs.rmit.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [BiO BB] aligning character data other than DNA or
>     protein
> To: "The general forum at Bioinformatics.Org"
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>
>>> On 8/31/05, Corné HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know of a convenient tool to align stretches of  
>>>> character
>>>> data other than DNA or protein (i.e. numbers: 01-02-03-05 and
>>>> 01-02-04-05) that is also able to deal with insertions and  
>>>> deletions etc.?
>>>>
>
> Sorry for breaking the chain, I lost the previous email.
>
> What is your distance measure between the characters? +1 for match and
> -1 for mismatch?
>
> If you know how to program, you can do this in Perl or even C very
> easily (or adapt a script so it accepts arbitrary characters).
>
> Cheers,
> Gad
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:02:58 +0200
> From: Daniel Lang <daniel.lang at biologie.uni-freiburg.de>
> Subject: Re: [BiO BB] aligning character data other than DNA or
>     protein
> To: "The general forum at Bioinformatics.Org"
>     <bio_bulletin_board at bioinformatics.org>
> Message-ID: <43158E62.1040504 at biologie.uni-freiburg.de>
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> Hi,
> Are you sure, wether it is really Clustal that restricts to 24  
> chars or
> simply the underlying substitutiion matrix. If this is the case, this
> could be accomplished by writing your own matrix.
> Or you try other tools in combination with adapted substitution  
> matrix...
> Daniel
>
> Corné HW Klaassen wrote:
>
>> Iain
>>
>> Clustal only accepts 24 letters. Numbers and other characters are
>> disregarded. So what if I have more than 24 different characters?
>>
>> Corné
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> --------------------
>>
>> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
>> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
>> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>>
>> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
>> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
>> fax: #31-24-3658671
>> E-Mail: c.klaassen at cwz.nl
>>
>>
>>
>> Iain Wallace wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think ClustalW can do that, as long as it is in a sequence format.
>>>
>>> Iain
>>> On 8/31/05, Corné HW Klaassen <c.klaassen at cwz.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know of a convenient tool to align stretches of  
>>>> character
>>>> data other than DNA or protein (i.e. numbers: 01-02-03-05 and
>>>> 01-02-04-05) that is also able to deal with insertions and  
>>>> deletions
>>>> etc.?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Corné
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>> ----------------------
>>>>
>>>> dr. Corné H.W. Klaassen, Molecular Biologist
>>>> Canisius Wilhelmina Hospital, Molecular Biology Unit, C60-C70
>>>> Weg door Jonkerbos 100, 6532 SZ Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
>>>>
>>>> tel: #31-24-3658670 (office)
>>>> tel: #31-24-3658677 (direct)
>>>> fax: #31-24-3658671
>>>> E-Mail: c.klaassen at cwz.nl
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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