I forgot to mention this and have not heard it much elsewhere... For academic labs using clusters for non-commmercial work I've seen Platform starting to quote subscription-only prices of ~$78 USD per linux cpu / per year. $78 sure beats the standard ~$400/cpu Linux pricing that I've seen and is something that should be looked at seriously by the academics here -- the cost may be worth it just to get a really nice DRM with exposed APIs that is backed by commercial support. Especially as many of the academic labs are getting clusters with the goal of being able to run the Ensembl genome annotation stuff which has internal dependencies on LSF anyway. This isn't a sales pitch :) I use and install both GridEngine and LSF. (I'm actually doing an SGE-based linux blast farm install right now) The new academic pricing structure just makes the 'which DRM to choose' question a bit harder. PS- can any LSF 5.0 users out there confirm that Platform is now encrypting their event logs and requiring the purchase of an additional license just to view {critical} log data? If true this is really nasty. -chris