blade servers (was Re: [Bioclusters] Any experiences with these
guys? reeks)
Donald Becker
bioclusters@bioinformatics.org
Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:20:17 -0500 (EST)
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Chris Dagdigian wrote:
> Rackable denies sending the astroturf message and points to big sales
> numbers (and order backlog) as reasons why even aggressive salespeople
The same "Astroturf" message was sent to the Beowulf mailing list, where
it was moderated out. There had been no previous posting by that
person, and it fits the profile of other similar marketing attempts by
other vendors.
> My take is this:
>
> (1) The real value for blade servers is mostly in the management,
> monitoring and provisioning software that you get with the blade
> platform.
The only tie in between the blade hardware platform and the management
software is the physical monitoring and management: power, thermal/fan,
reset and perhaps console management. Each of these has functional
equals with non-blade system.
To put it another way: blades are just a different hardware package.
There is no reason blades should dictate the software platform
> When done right it is the software that delivers the actual
> savings in terms of operational burden and that is what really tips the
> scales over in favor of paying extra $$ for blades.
Here I agree completely. The software architecture is what reduces the
big costs:
- administrative and user time,
- training,
- and the ability to transparently scale up and move to newer hardware
> What do others think? Is the management and provisioning software just
> as important as the form factor and wiring density savings?
The software is far more important.
- Starting two years ago, we have seen many hardware platforms that
are near the air-cooled thermal density limits of most computer rooms.
Compute density is no longer a vital issue.
- Wiring complexity is somewhat influenced by the software platform:
full OS installs on each machine tend to require KVM switches or
serial concentrators for maintenance. But non-blade platforms are
frequently installed and operated with only power and network
connections. With the right on-motherboard NIC, IPMI management can
invisibly run over same Fast/Gb Ethernet as communication.
Unless/until the machines uses Myrinet, CLAN or IB, network wiring
complexity isn't a significant issue.
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Donald Becker becker@scyld.com
Scyld Computing Corporation http://www.scyld.com
914 Bay Ridge Road, Suite 220 Scyld Beowulf cluster system
Annapolis MD 21403 410-990-9993