Hi folks: I don't want to pollute these lists with OT discussions, so please respond back to me rather than hitting "reply". If there is sufficient interest, we can set up yet another mailing list somewhere. If not (< 10 people) we can simply have an off line conversation. I know some folks will have a rather automatic abdominal convulsive reaction to this, and I apologize about upsetting your day. Joe -- Joe Landman email: landman at scalableinformatics.com web : http://www.scalableinformatics.com