Hi Larry, You present some interesting information. We've just seen in other types of computationally intense applications, biometrics for instance, that we can outperform FPGAs and at a significantly reduced price point. It would be great to test what we believe to be true in the bioinformatics arena. As for HMMR, GROMACS, AMBER and others being parallelized for sometime, I fully concur. We're parallelizing them using a methodology other than MPI and what is currently in the market because we see several orders of magnitude increased performance and scalability on COTS-based hardware for BLAST. We have no reason to believe we won't see similar results for other bioscience applications, as we've seen similar results for other market applications, such as pattern recognition, seismic processing and LIDAR. We're choosing popular open source applications because they are widely used, but if someone has a proprietary solution they'd like to see scream and made available as a hosted revenue producing solution or for internal use, we'd be interested in talking. I might add, that we may not even need to see source code to parallelize. Cheers, K Kathleen wrote: > TIA: > > One thing to consider when using FPGAs for bioinformatics or any > complex computational life science application is whether or not the > FPGA supports cross coupled communication. ... which is needed in which algorithms? > I believe FPGAs do not, therefore, FPGAs will be limited in > scalability, performance and very expensive. FPGA performance on various algorithms is already 1 to 2 orders of magnitude (e.g. 10 to 100 times) faster than single CPUs. The price points of modern FPGA boards with modern algorithms is about 2-4x single node pricing. As FPGAs improve (and they are), expect to achieve significantly more performance. [...] > almost have HMMR and GROMACS parallelized and will be parallelizing > AMBER or some other MD code next. Hmmm.... HMMer was parallelized using PVM quite some time ago, and using MPI quite recently (with excellent results reported). GROMACS also has been parallel for a while. Gromacs: http://www.gromacs.org/benchmarks/scaling.php HMMer: http://hmmer.wustl.edu Amber and many other MD codes have been parallelized for a while now... > Kathleen Erickson > Senior Marcom Strategist , Massively Parallel Technologies, Inc. -- Joseph Landman, Ph.D Founder and CEO Scalable Informatics LLC, email: landman at scalableinformatics.com web : http://www.scalableinformatics.com phone: +1 734 786 8423 fax : +1 734 786 8452 cell : +1 734 612 4615 _______________________________________________ Bioclusters maillist - Bioclusters at bioinformatics.org https://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/bioclusters