[Molvis-list] To the moderator (and list admin)
Eric Martz
emartz at microbio.umass.edu
Sun Nov 21 12:21:02 EST 2004
At 11/20/04, you wrote:
>Can I ask why this list is moderated?
>
>In the spirit of "This makes the discussion more interesting"
>(http://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/molvis-list) I don't see why
>this should be necessary.
Presently this list is moderated by Eric Martz or Tim Driscoll.
"Moderating" an email list means that a moderator must approve each message
before it is broadcast to the list. The moderator may refuse to broadcast
inappropriate messages. The RasMol-list subscribers have been quite civil
during the 9-year history of this list. However, were a disrespectful,
name-calling, or inflammatory message to be sent, the moderators could
request that such messages be rephrased, or reject them. In some cases the
moderator may choose to edit messages before they are broadcast, but the
mailman software running molvis-list does not provide this option.
I chose to moderate the new molvis-list, at least for an initial period, to
preclude the broadcasting of spam. Messages are accepted only from
subscribers, but it is easy for spammers to "spoof" a message as being
"From" a sender, fooling this safeguard. A handful of spam messages were
broadcast on the old list because I chose not to moderate it for most of
its history.
Moderation also enables me to respond to "unsubscribe" requests that are
inappropriately sent to the entire list, without broadcasting them. There
has already been one of those.
The present mechanism for moderation in mailman does not allow me to edit
messages before broadcasting. I have found no need for such editing, but
sometimes it would be useful to add a comment before broadcasting (which
mailman does not enable me to do at present). Bioinformatics.org plans to
upgrade to a new version of mailman which may have more flexibility.
The old listproc mechanism enabled me to get a little information about new
subscribers, which helped me to refuse subscriptions to dozens of clearly
bogus requests received over the years. The present mailman mechanism gives
me only the email address for subscription requests, so I have no basis for
refusing a subscription request. This made me a little more nervous about
the possibility of vandals subscribing to broadcast spam. So far it hasn't
happened, but it has only been one month. The list is more visible than it
used to be because of its presence in a large group of lists at
bioinformatics.org.
The only downside of moderation that I can see is the sometime delay of up
to a day (rarely more) before Tim or I get around to checking and approving
new messages. Tim Driscoll has just today been added as co-administrator.
This should reduce the lag time on average.
The lag occurs in part because the mechanism provided by mailman, to alert
the list administrators when a message has been sent, also displays the
admininstrators' email addresses plainly on the main list web page. Tim and
I did not want this because it makes it easy for email address harvesting
worms to spam us. So I displayed the admin addresses in an alternate
format. However, doing so obviates the mechanism mailman has for alerting
us of new messages.
If the subscribership prefers that the list not be moderated, I don't mind
turning moderation off. There is a slight risk that all 600-some of us will
be bombarded with molvis-list spam one of these days. Dan, if you wish to
propose to the list subscribers that it not be moderated, go ahead. I have
no convenient mechanism for taking a vote of all subscribers, but we can
see if there are any objections. I would not object to trying it unmoderated.
Otherwise, I plan to continue moderating the list for a couple more months
until I see how it goes. Then I expect I'll turn off moderation if it seems
unnecessary.
-Eric
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Eric Martz, Professor Emeritus, Dept Microbiology
University of Massachusetts, Amherst MA US
http://www.umass.edu/molvis/martz
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