On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Dan Bolser wrote: > Timothy Driscoll wrote: >> moderation is the only thing between you (all list subscribers) >> and another 4-6 spam messages per day. :-) in this case, it is >> the least intrusive method for keeping the list spam-free. >> keep in mind that we do not moderate for content - in fact, it is >> the rare message from a subscriber that I read before >> broadcasting. usually we can tell from the sender and subject >> line if it is a real post or spam. >> hopefully that puts your mind at ease somewhat. ;-) > snip > You seem to be saying that the list is not *strictly* 'subscriber > only', and to allow for the odd non-subscriber to post you create a > heap of extra effort and incur a delay on every post, only to > encourage people to subscribe in the first place! > that is correct. automatic rejection of non-subscribers' posts was considered too harsh originally. while I continue to suggest that posters subscribe, it is still just a suggestion at this point. of course, as moderator I could simply reject a non-subscriber's post even if it is on-topic - which I have done in the past - but read below about not ruffling feathers. :-) given the recent increase in spam, and the fact that most of you are kind enough to subscribe before posting (thank you!), this policy may warrant a review. > > You said "this is why we request that you subscribe before posting. > otherwise, it is extra work for us to actually read your message > before broadcasting it." > > I guess you mean "we politely request", and not "we strictly require"? > that is correct. > In the latter case, what is the problem, and in the former case, > what is the point? > it was designed to allow the rare topical post from a nonsubscriber. I believe that the decision to moderate in this manner was made when the list moved to bioinformatics.org. the rationale was that we would add a small burden on the moderator, and a short delay in broadcasting posts, but we would avoid ruffling the feathers of the occasional non-subscriber with an on-topic post. Eric may be able to provide more clarification on the motive, if necessary. suffice it to say from my perspective that this never struck me as a crucial issue for this particular list. > > Why can't you make subscriber posts automatic and only moderate non > subscriber posts? Seeing as spoofing has *never* occurred, this > would seem the most appropriate action to take, given that you only > request and not require that people subscribe. > this is a reasonable request. I will investigate whether it is possible to implement at bioinformatics.org (the listserv). thanks Dan, tim