This is also somewhat similar to Piper: http://www-4.ibm.com/cgi-bin/software/track3.cgi?file=/software/info/websphere/developers/index.html&S_TACT=100AWW11&S_CMP=campaign I can't help but get the impression, however, that WebSphere and Micro$oft.NET are a lot more convoluted and complex than Piper. Jeff