Hello Tim, I'm new to this list and came across your post. I'm actually in this business. Here are some of my responses to your questions: >1. What charging scheme do you use? Options range from a one-off "lifetime >membership" charge for a whole company or university to charging by the >wallclock or CPU minute. - We charge by wall-clock, broken down by CPU/hour >2. How much interest do you have from the commercial sector for using up >unused clock cycles? Is this a useful approach for meeting costs? - Some interest from companies looking for computing resources, but not overwhelming. >3. How do you prioritize these users fairly? - Each user has the same priority. Nodes can be "dedicated" to a user but that user is charged for hours even when not in use. >4. Do you have a way of deciding how many nodes should be allocated to a >particular batch task, based on the number and size of other batch requests >that have occurred or are likely to occur? - Users specify how may nodes they want to use (they have to pay for it). If the nodes are available, the batch job is run. >5. Are there particular usage patterns you have discovered (e.g. length and >frequency of batch jobs, number of nodes requested or allocated etc.), which >are important to take into account? - Node requests range from just a single node up to dozens of nodes. It all depends on the user. Every user requires something unique. Have you thought about the time spent supporting these users? >6. (More technical) Is there any software you would recommend for >collected this information automatically? - Most batch systems (schedulers) have some sort of accounting built in. We happen to use OpenPBS (with customizations) and Condor. >At the moment we are planning to allow an initial 6-month period of free >access to any user, to determine the level of interest in using such a >system, the kinds of usage patterns and to build up an idea of how to manage >the system as we go along, but it would be really beneficial to hear from >others who have been there. - We did the same thing. >Please let me know if there are any further details you need to know. I >look forward to your comments! - Actually, I have some other ideas and ways I can help if you wish to discuss them offline. Best regards, John Van Workum Tsunamic Technologies Inc. support@tticluster.com http://wwww.onlinecluster.com