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LAI Loong Fong bioclusters@bioinformatics.org
Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:51:54 +0600


The limitation actually lies in the 32 bit architecture of Xeon. 
Physical 32 bit limitation is 4GB, PAE gives us up to 64 GB. For normal 
Linux, you should have about 3GB per process and maybe can tune the 
kernel to use 3.5GB per process.

LAI Loong-Fong

On Mar 30, 2004, at 2:46 PM, Dan Bolser wrote:

>
> I have a question about Xeon and memory... It looks like I have one Gb 
> per
> CPU, and not 4 Gb for the 4 CPU without restriction. Is this problem at
> the hardware level?
>
> What is the maximum amount of memory a CPU can use?
>
> I heard talk of a Tb memory machine, but it was part of a 1000 node
> cluster, so I am thinking OK 1 Gb per node.
>
> Can anyone clarify this for me?
>
> Cheers,
> Dan.
>
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Philip MacMenamin wrote:
>
>> On Monday 29 March 2004 05:38 am, you wrote:
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i'm interested to the constructiong of a linux cluster of computer 
>>> for
>>> bioinformatics purpose. but i dont have a cluu about the performans 
>>> it
>>> should have. is there any one who can give any suggestion?
>>>
>>> in  the hope of an answer
>>>
>> Its kind of a nebulous question.
>>
>> Basically... buy Xeon || AMD two way boxes. Be boring, look at Dell or
>> penguin computing or something. Dont bother with 64 bit. Think about 
>> that in
>> about 2 years time. It will irritate you in 2 months after you buy 
>> it, *i
>> promise*.
>>
>> Dont buy from some indy very cheap manufacturer, cause, if the nodes 
>> will
>> fail, you will be left waiting... or make them give you a decent 
>> guarantee.
>> Or a big box of bits.
>>
>> Look at the price of the chip : speed ratio. This graph will have an
>> inflection point, at which more money input gives diminishing returns
>> speed-wise. Buy at this inflection point. This changes all the 
>> time... of
>> course. There is no point in buying the *best* out there right this 
>> second.
>> Just buy a little behind it, and buy an extra box or two.
>>
>> Find out what you want to run.
>> Buy as enough memory so it doesn't thrash your disks. (Or just fill 
>> it with
>> memory).
>>
>> Spending about 2 grand (USD) on them a piece (I dont know what that 
>> is in
>> Lira) should buy you something decent operating at 3 gigs, with a 
>> couple of
>> gigs ram.
>>
>> Then have a look at
>> http://bioinformatics.org/biobrew/
>> www.rocksclusters.org/
>>
>> Sorry if this is very uninspiring/boring advice... its just, you want 
>> to keep
>> everything as simple as you can. There will be tricky bits no matter 
>> how
>> simple you make everything.
>> Good luck.
>> Philip.
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