[Bioclusters] Need some advice on a cluster for EST/cDNA assembly, clustering

Matt Temple mht at research.dfci.harvard.edu
Sun Feb 27 14:26:49 EST 2005


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Elia Stupka wrote:

| I've been hoping to be able to access large amounts of memory on
| affordable servers for a while, in reality, though, the 4GB OS
| limit has hardly been the issue since unfortunately the cost of
| memory is still very high and hardware vendors seldom offer more
| than 4GBs per processor.
|
| The Sun Opterons are the only ones (among the mainstream vendors)
| that offered us a 4-way option with 32 GBs. The Apple G5s are still
|  limited to 8GB (4 per processor, probably when Tiger will be truly
|  released they will finally offer more memory slots?), IBM Opterons
|  offer 16GB (still only 4GB per processor), the blade versions are
| always limited in memory, etc... then you are left with the usual
| suspects (Power5s, etc.) who have been dealing with more memory for
|  a long time, but at a nasty price...

Why do you reject the quad Opteron computers (supporting 32 GB of RAM)
from vendors like ASAComputers (and, no
doubt, though I haven't checked from PCs for Everyone and others)?  
The computers, themselves, may not be from mainstream
vendors, but they are from motherboard manufacturers that I'd be
inclined to call mainstream -- SuperMicro, Tyan, ASUS.


~            Matt Temple

|
| ...as long as it costs more to equip hardware with good amounts of
| memory than it costs to buy the hardware, the refinement of 64-bit
| OS for access to large amounts of memory can't take off properly,
| can it?
|
| Cheers,
|
| Elia
|
|
| On 27 Feb 2005, at 15:40, Joe Landman wrote:
|
|>
|>
|> LAI Loong Fong wrote:
|>
|>> The process in OSX 10.3 can only see up to 4GB of ram. From
|>> what I understand, 10.4 may or may not resolve this issue. I
|>> did heard about people buying from Apple but run YDL instead.
|>
|>
|> The big issue we keep seeing in 64 linux is running into ABI
|> differences.  There are a few distributions that try to create a
|> "pure" 64 bit or a mixed 64 bit environment, and neither do a
|> perfect job. Usually you see this in terms of broken software
|> installation/builds. Other times libraries are broken, or
|> headers, or paths to the libraries/headers ...
|>
|> It would help if there were simple methods of tying paths to
|> ABI's.
|>
|> In terms of the 4GB limit, this is an annoyance today, and I
|> suspect for most folks, will become a major issue in short order.
|>  I think YDL is a RH variant, so hopefully it has support built
|> in (if it was built from the 64 bit ports of RH).  If not, it
|> would be nice if OSX came in an OSX64 (if not today, then soon).
|>
|> I wonder if that would get compiler support though (the IBM
|> compiler specifically).
|>
|> Joe
|>
|>> LAI Loong-Fong _______________________________________________
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|>
|> -- Joseph Landman, Ph.D Scalable Informatics LLC, email:
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