I don't at all, it is just a)I was making a negative remark on mainstream vendors b)currently equipping a lab located in Italy, we are limited in choice, especially when it comes to good warranty/service (though officially some of the vendors you mention are available, when it comes to practice they don't have as good a support network here) c)being part of an important non-profit organization we get very sweet deals from the mainstream guys such as HP and Sun (like servers for free) so we cannot refuse ;) Elia On 27 Feb 2005, at 20:26, Matt Temple wrote: > Why do you reject the quad Opteron computers (supporting 32 GB of RAM) > from vendors like ASAComputers (and, no > doubt, though I haven't checked from PCs for Everyone and others)? > The computers, themselves, may not be from mainstream > vendors, but they are from motherboard manufacturers that I'd be > inclined to call mainstream -- SuperMicro, Tyan, ASUS. >